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A biologist and several other monitors, including a Chumash tribal member, were on site to oversee the removal of vegetation for the fence, Goode said. The fence should be completely installed air line ticket around the project area within two days, she added.
Activist Marcia Hanscom of the Wetland Defense Fund, one of three groups that filed a lawsuit seeking the revocation of a Coastal Commission permit approved for the project, said the fence will block off access to wildlife who need the lagoon.
Once the fence is erected, scientists will begin capturing wildlife and releasing them on State Park property upstream. Sorry folks, you cannot safely relocate wildlife air line ticket as has been shown dramatically by the solar companies relocating desert tortoises. Many die trying to get back to their habitats and others are killed because they are interlopers into areas already inhabited by others of their species. This relocation plan is hugely air line ticket flawed for the same reasons. This is a major disaster all around. Some silly woman from state parks suggest air line ticket turtles air line ticket be relocated in that commercial pond at Calabasas Commons - she actually told me she thought it was a great place. No it is not. The females get out of the pond to lay eggs and are crushed air line ticket and killed or maimed by cars throughout the parking lot. This Lagoon plan is government interference and stupidity at its worst.
I asked one of the State Park employees if they had relocated any of the weasels yet? After admitting she hadn't seen one yet but heard that they were here, she asked, Oh do you know if they are native or non-native? My answer to her was, I really don't know, are you native or non-native? Maybe you should be relocated too! I'm sure the Chumash will agree with me.
Yah because being a jerk is a really good way to get your point across. So lets all start hating on the workers of this project and make death threats. Great way to treat others - oh wait, this is the Malibu Patch where everybody slams each other for not taking their position on issues.
air line ticket Suzanne BOONDOGGLE Goode State Parks Senior Environmental Scientist, says this is all good!!!!! Im just glad they caught all the animals and wild life that would have been killed or displaced by man in half a day, and now they are getting ready for the destruction of the lagoon to rebuild another one by some smart looking humans and fill it back up with waste water from up stream, all during the busiest time for local business this summer. I'm told its needed people are dying!
its no secret that the first problem is the dam that needs to be dismantled and just by doing that would solve a lot of the problems, then the second problem is the tapia sewage treatment plant that sends semi polluted chemical sewage water flowing into the malibu air line ticket creek and eventually into the new 9 million dollar lagoon its a easy fix, just take out the government grant time line! and .orgs and get some shovels!
suzanne you need to focus on taking down the dam and fixing the tapia issue and move the breach and stop trying to destroy nature because a grant is running out! I'm surprised your not the first one to say grab a shovel!
Susan is absolutely correct about moving of wildlife. This is partly air line ticket why the Bolsa Chica decision against the Coastal Commission concluded that you can't MOVE ESHA (Environmentally Sensitive Habitat Area.) Most of the agencies that reviewed the permits for this project had NO IDEA how much wildlife would be moved - or even that this MOVING of wildlife is needed. Why? The project proponents kept saying the lagoon was dead and dying - which is a ridiculous statement to anyone who has spent any serious amount of time there.
Federal authorities are reviewing numerous permits and reviewing things that they were not told previously. The fence construction - while disturbing on several levels (like the question J. Flora-Katz has asked) -- is a show of force, designed to encourage people to give up.
The beautiful songs of the birds there this morning reminded us all this is still spring nesting season. Yet, electric lines are being installed and LOUD noises from the jackhammers at the fence construction site are interfering with the mating songs of the birds.
And the issue of the other agencies' knowledge air line ticket of what was happening was thoroughly discussed in court, and considered by the judge. air line ticket I point you to page 60 of the transcript (Mr. Birkelund is Marcia's attorney):
THE COURT: Let me ask Mr. Birkelund something. There were a number of agencies that examined this project -- the Army Corps of Engineers, the US Fish and Wildlife Service -- which by the way, I think said it would improve the goby habitat as well as the pelican and tern habitat. The State Water Quality Control Board and Regional Water Quality Control air line ticket Board and the -- of course, the Coastal Commission – now they've all said this thing works. This thing was based on good evidence, substantial evidence. Do you think they're all wrong?
MR. BIRKELUND: No. I -- well, I don't think – obviously environmental petitioners aren't challenging those decisions, but I think their analysis and their approval is only as good as the information of the agency that applies for the permit.
Marcia, you had your day on court. Four judges looked at your claim that Bolsa Chica says you can't relocate wildlife (a preposterous reading of that ruling -- and not applicable to these facts in the first place).
Courts are sometimes wrong. Remember air line ticket Bush v. Gore? Hans, you will not silence my voice by your bullying. Just like the bureaucrats are trying to silence the birds that are singing and trying to hear each other for mating....but the loud jackhammers drown them out.
There are numerous issues of permit compliance, as well as violations of the federal Endangered Species Act. We intend to speak up for Nature at Malibu Lagoon until we save this special place. The permit holders are doing things air line ticket not allowed by the permits.
And more importantly, this is nesting/breeding season for so many species at the lagoon. People with open minds, eyes and hearts are obviously upset over the construction zone that this filled-with-life wetland ecosystem is being turned into.
You just quoted a court decision -- Bolsa Chica -- that prohibits moving air line ticket an ESHA, and said that controls. The judge made it plain to you that the case here is not about MOVING an ESHA, it is about RESTORING a wetlands. Very specific law controls that, and it is not contradicted by Bolsa Chica.
But you continue to cling to your discredited legal theory. I wonder why you do not comprehend the message from four separate judges in two courts, the Coastal Commission, the state Water Board, the Fish and Game Commission, the US Wildlife Service, the Army Corps of Engineers, the Malibu City Council and the governor of the State of California.
air line ticket By any objective standard, she has not won over Malibu at all. She won over the city council on the dewatering issues only -- by raising valid concerns that need to be addressed. air line ticket The city can't support the entire project until the dewatering issues are settled. Good for her.
Actually, Cathey, most of Malibu could care less about the lagoon. We had thousands of people out for the No LNG rallies. The lagoon protests have been sparsely attended in the words of one newspaper.
Malibu should be blessed with the devotion , selflessness and energy that Hans Laetz has provided for the City of Malibu . Hans, If those emotional kooks tar and feather air line ticket you out of your own town because of your intelligent air line ticket well read insights , you are welcome here . Santa Monica could use a courageous ethical man of truth . My friends in Malibu think you are a hero with your volunteer work against SCE and the Trancas projects and your constant vigilance against corruption and unchecked development . Hans should be voted man of the year on selflessness alone . Is Rich Morrison typical of the mentality in Malibu ? If so ,, very very very sad , what a backwards air line ticket regressive stigma and an embarrassment for such an iconic beach town .
Correction wear, whoops! thanks candice you lil wanabe english teacher! sorry i'm so pissed at this boondoggle that I cant see straight or spell, I'm not worried air line ticket about the english language on this forum i'm worried about this lame idea called the malibu lagoon restoration project... now known as the boondoggle of malibu, or another government road to nowhere!
they need to have a bill that adds up to $10 Million in order to spend all of the bond money. Keep thinking. Your ideas are great, but what could we possibly spend the other $9.995 Million on? schools? no way!
Hellwood ,, The track record proves that no matter how much money you throw towards air line ticket the Californias School air line ticket System and its teachers it does not improve test scores. Besides it is illegal for bond money not to be intended for it's voted purpose
Isn't the voter approved bond that is financing the Lagoon Restoration coming in under budget ? .Malibu is blessed to get these needed funds . I saw a sign being held by one of the opposition members in the paper that read the project was costing $10 -$40 million dollars . This is just another lie on top of all the other many lies perpetrated by the opposition . There will be no traffic problems on PCH , no bird fatalities and no waves ruined . Who is wealthy enough air line ticket to be financing this massive disinformation campaign ? I think we all know and THEY want to maintain the right to keep injecting human waste into the overly saturated sand between the ocean and the Lagoon in disregard to public health consequences . Follow the Money ! But the Wetland Dense Fraud may not be forth coming of donation records that real Non profits with public disclosures legally show .
yeah, the schools are a joke, but bringing back music programs could inspire a few. the lagoon project is described by state parks as an experiment, and has been approved to move forward despite the real possibility of tearing it all apart over and over to get it right, air line ticket easily c

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