суббота, 13 октября 2012 г.
Unfortunately, that s almost impossible. When you send something via Western Union, it doesn t go to
This looks a lot like a case I handled last year involving a discount cruise site. I tried to contact the cruise line and the fake online agency, but the money had been lost. These scams usually follow a pattern:
If Cheaperetickets america west airline tickets is a scam, then Brown's money is almost certainly gone. Western Union won't be able to retrieve it, and neither will I. If Cheaperetickets is simply a misunderstood business that got its wires crossed, it's doubtful that my involvement will change anything.
There are a few valuable takeaways for the rest of us. In addition to never wiring money, do business with a company you know, not a fly-by-night operation thousands of miles away and located outside the jurisdiction of your nation's courts.
Are you disputing that this website is fake, and that these guys are scammers? Simply because they claim that you can pay them through a bank transfer? Because if so, you are a scam waiting to happen.
UK banks have branches america west airline tickets in other countries, where they are far more lax about IDs than in the US or UK. Go ahead, america west airline tickets try it. Buy a ticket from this fake company, and pay for it with a bank transfer. I dare you.
We scambaiters actually like it when we hear of someone losing money to a scammer via bank transfer. We have contacts in the banking industry who will take reports of scammer-owned bank accounts america west airline tickets and get them shut down.
It doesn t get your money back, and all they do is open up another account, but at least it might save someone who is about to become a scam victim when they try to transfer money to the scammer s account, their bank will tell them the account has been closed. This will often make the victim question america west airline tickets the legitimacy of the scammer, and stop them.
But then again it sometimes doesn t. You d be surprised how many will just contact their scammer and say, hey your account is closed, and the scammer will give them their new account number, and BOOM back in business.
No, I m saying that a major UK bank may be interested in knowing that a criminal is using a local UK branch for fraudulent money transfers. Go through the booking process yourself, choose to pay by bank transfer and you ll see. I m sure the bank doesn t know- yet- but once they did you d think they would be partially responsible for further fraudulent money transfers into that account.
That is why you make purchases where you have consumer protection. This woman was making a one way international airline ticket purchase to a company she never worked with before and she wired them money with no safety net and writes to Chris for help. Why didn t she think if this BEFORE wiring the money? All Chris can do now is restate the errors of her ways so others might pay attention and not get caught. But you know it will happen, again and again.
Check out the prices offered by the website. They sell to the public at prices lower than the largest airline america west airline tickets ticket consolidators can sell to you and me (i.e. travel agents). The fares are so unbelievably cheap that they are actually that unbelievable.
When people see and drool about these amazing prices, they fall for the scam. I am surprised why search america west airline tickets companies display them as sponsored listings. There is no way a new and fake travel america west airline tickets agency will come up on the top of a search engine result without paying the search engine. IMO, search engines america west airline tickets are part of the problem, too.
Apartment rentals are one of the leading types of advance-fee fraud today. It s so easy for a scammer to post a listing for some random apartment, convince potential tenants that they are dealing with the actual landlord, get the money through wire or bank transfer, and then disappear. In fact there is an entire forum on this type of scam on Scamwarners.
america west airline tickets There are some reputable travel businesses that require money to be wired to an account. I have at times done business with them. However, I would certainly america west airline tickets learn the company s reputation first before doing so.
Wiring money usually means using a company america west airline tickets such as Western Union or Money Gram to send money to a person s name. There are no accounts involved, no banks, nothing to trace. You send the money to a person s name. Any person who presents themselves at any Western Union office with an ID showing that name, and having the MTCN (Money Control Transfer Number), will be handed the cash, and can then walk out of the office and disappear into the wind. There is no way to trace it, no accountability, nothing that can be done.
There are also bank transfers . These are only marginally safer: the person must have been able to open up a bank account. And if the recipient is in the US, or is an actual, verifiable business entity, your money will go into that person s account and if you don t get the service paid for, you may have some recourse america west airline tickets through the bank.
But the moment your bank transfer involves an account in a country america west airline tickets other than the US, all bets are off. Criminals open bank accounts in other countries using fake IDs all the time. They collect as much money from gullible victims as they can into that account until finally somebody reports the account, and it gets closed down. But here s the rub: NOTHING HAPPENS TO THE SCAMMER. He ll just walk away with your cash, and open another account. This happens all the time in countries that are hot-beds for scam activity: Nigeria, Ghana, Benin, the Netherlands, Russia, China.
Yes, there are legitimate businesses who want you to either wire or bank-transfer money to them, in order to save on the small percentage that credit card companies charge. But unless you know FOR SURE that this is a legitimate business, it s just not worth the risk. These legitimate businesses will also usually offer other, more protected america west airline tickets payment options (e.g. credit cards), and will charge you more. If you want to avoid getting scammed, pay the higher cost to use your credit card.
This is another case of buy beware, I voted yes as there is nothing to lose by you mediating this case, but it is hard to feel sorry for someone who does not investigate the company before handing over money, especially one that she had never heard of.
I live in Australia, and domestic bank transfers (similar to the US ACH transfer ) are a very common method of payment for large transactions as it saves both parties the credit card fees which can be quite large. Personal cheques have gone out of favour because the bank transfers process america west airline tickets overnight instead of several days wait for cheques to clear. I ve used this to pay for travel before but it was a brick-and-mortal travel agent, part of national chain, and the bank details are pre-printed on their invoice that I got from the office, so it was pretty america west airline tickets clear it was legit. The Australia-based system requires not just the account number but the account america west airline tickets name to match up, and the bank will only open accounts in official business names. Still not that s perfect protection, and you do lose the chargeback features of the credit card. So it really makes sense only for companies that you re confident in.
Unfortunately, america west airline tickets that s almost impossible. When you send something via Western Union, it doesn t go to a specific destination. It goes into the Western Union system and can be picked up anywhere there is a Western Union. The news station would have no way of knowing where the scammers picked america west airline tickets up the money.
Actually, that s not completely correct. There are several types of wire transfers. There is the Western union private wire which is where the criminals tend to hang out. As you correctly state, america west airline tickets be very very careful using that.
In fact, a client bounced america west airline tickets a check and sent me a Western Union to replace the check. The Western america west airline tickets union office america west airline tickets issued me a Western Union check. The bank manager told me in no uncertain terms he was accepting it only because he knew me and I represented that I knew the client (which I did)
There is also the bank wire. Bank A wires the money to Bank B. This transaction bypasses america west airline tickets the ACH system (I believe) and can be used domestically and internationally. This is actually a preferred method of doing large transaction business when the parties are already acquainted america west airline tickets with each other. I have clients from Europe and Asia that use this method to pay for my legal services.
Alas, you are right. A salesman friend of mine was recruited to sell a revolutionary solar panel . Somehow this magic solar panel produces more energy than it takes in. That s a trick worthy america west airline tickets of Dumbledore or Gandalf. Fortunately I dissuaded him. There are scammers all over the place and anything that sounds too good to be true probably is.
LOL fake cashiers checks are seen all the time. Heck, we scambaiters collect them! I ve got a stack of them. It s one of the most common america west airline tickets ways scammers fool their victims they can make the checks look so real the victim s bank doesn t even know they are fake. The problem is that by the time your bank discovers they ARE fake, you ve already withdrawn the money from your account and wired it to the scammers. So once again POOF the money is gone, and yet another scammer laughs all the way to the Mercedes Benz dealer.
Yes, the website would either have to be a vast global business empire with locations scattered worldwide or a scam. My spider-sense is screaming scam. (Though I do personally know of some small software companies where principals are located all over the world, coordinate the company via the Internet, and so things like various registrations do end up being in different countries america west airline tickets but they are upfront about it.)
Yes, and everything written on a website is true and accurate. As related above when you try to make a credit card payment, america west airline tickets the software is programmed to say that there is a problem accepting america west airline tickets credit america west airline tickets card for the moment. If you try Paypal, america west airline tickets you get instructions that seem like Paypal instructions until they diverge
that s not even as sneaky as it gets. They could pretend to process the credit card payment, then say there was an issue ( communicating with your bank , verifying the transaction , etc.). america west airline tickets I get that
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