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It s good that there are some European leaning sites and studies and programs. If you listened to th
The index includes all 138 destinations Spartacus covers, but rather than judge them based on their gay nightlife, the publishers keystone springdale travel trailers rated them according to the laws and customs of each country as the relate to marriage equality, HIV travel restrictions, hate-crime murders, laws against homosexuality and other criteria. Each nation was assigned a positive or negative number value for each category.
Topping the list was Sweden, which scored points for having anti-discrimination laws, recognition of gay unions, an equal age of consent, travel marketing aimed at gays and no institutional persecution of the LGBT community.
The United States landed in the middle of the pack at #38—thanks to anti-gay laws, a lack of marriage equality, and some unfriendly corners of the Land of the Free—and keystone springdale travel trailers tied with Aruba, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Croatia, Curacao, Hungary, keystone springdale travel trailers Italy, Mexico and Thailand.
I am not so sure I would want to travel to the top travel destination according to Spartacus in winter.Except Spain is a good place year round but the rising crime rates and the massive unemployed is making it less desirable .The problem with Spartacus is published in Europe and is very Euro-centric .I think the opportunity for travel and living are stronger in the US for LGBT brethren then anywhere else.
I don t get these scores at all. In Mexico, for one, same-sex marriage is legal in Mexico City and must be recognized throughout the country, but its given a lower score in that category than the U.S.; likewise, Mexico s constitution has prohibited discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation since 2001, while the U.S. doesn t even have a federal law on the issue, much less a constitutional right, but both countries received the same score in that category.
I agree about Mexico to a small extent. They ve come a bit further than the USA as a nation when it comes to the law. But, I don t think that they d rank highly AT ALL when it comes to the other criteria that are mentioned above.
The 56-page decision cites two U.S. Supreme Court cases that specifically addressed race-based discrimination keystone springdale travel trailers and segregation: Loving v. Virginia that found state bans on interracial marriages unconstitutional and Brown v. Board of Education that struck down laws that allowed separate public schools for black and white students.
"For there to be same-sex keystone springdale travel trailers marriage throughout the country, if there is not a reform of the civil laws of each state, we will need five rulings in each one of the states that comprise the federation [of Mexico,]" Méndez noted.
How is this list Euro-centric? The list basically shows that many European countries are MORE ADVANCED when it comes to LGBT issues. And, it also shows that many Middle Eastern countries are far behind. This very much matches with the reality of things here on this earth. Although someone could make an argument that some countries may need to move up/down on the list slightly, the overall list seems to adequately reflect the state of LGBT laws and acceptance in each of the countries mentioned. Just because Europe is farther along that Asia, Central keystone springdale travel trailers America, Africa and the Middle East does not mean that the results are flawed by bias. I see no bias here.
I m always surprised when I see lists like this that the Bahamas are as gay unfriendly as they are. I understand it but it still is mentally hard to accept. But, I do hear that things might be changing.
The list IS rather outdated by the way. Same-sex marriage was legalized in Washington State in NOVEMBER of last year and this list says that this issue is still undecided. No it isn t. The voters legalized it over 3 months ago.
It s good that there are some European keystone springdale travel trailers leaning sites and studies and programs. If you listened to the internet keystone springdale travel trailers you wouldn t think anywhere outside of California and New York has ever existed for the LGBT community.
The US has 31 times more people than Sweden and covers a vast amount of land. If Sweden were just a state sharing a larger country with places like Russia and Hungary, then maybe you could compare it to the US.
Spartacus left out the court systems, which makes their rankings a joke. For instance, France should not be high because keystone springdale travel trailers its Constitutional Court is completely corrupt and profoundly anti-gay. Mexico should definitely be ranked higher.
The U.S. has become a more unfriendly keystone springdale travel trailers destination keystone springdale travel trailers for gay travelers in recent years due in large part to rising inequality. The traditional gay vacation destinations (NYC, San Francisco, P-town, etc.) have become too expensive and gentrified for most young gay people to visit (never mind live). As a result, gay life in these destinations have also become very boring compared to what it was.
Concerning the purported eurocentricity keystone springdale travel trailers of Spartacus, I think the problem in the US is that most publications that we are used to are pretty much North-American-centric. In the end we all live in our little tribe, but the world is vast and horizons virtually limitless. Lets not be so provincial and create more borders than already exist.
Concerning the purported crisis in Spain (one of the top homofriendly states in the Spartacus ranking), the crime rate has not increased as mentioned in the first comment; in fact it is much lower and cities are way more safe (both for gays and for the general population) keystone springdale travel trailers and quite a bit more queer-receptive than in your average American town. I recommend it!
@Gonzalo . Since I grew up in Southern Europe with a German mother and Greek father you would think I would be more Eurocentric .I have done business in rural France , Northern keystone springdale travel trailers Spain,Italy since I am a wine importer.I speak French ,German , Arabic and functional Spanish besides English.My experiences keystone springdale travel trailers has been that outside of major city s in Northern Europe it get s very homophobic but Europeans keystone springdale travel trailers don t count rural location s.I have been to bar s in Southern France where they have speakeasy type peep hole so they won t be harassed .Bar s in Spain s Sitge s or Barcelona are targeted by North African gang s .Rural Sweden can be as bad as back wood s as Kentucky where we don t have LGBT center s.I have used Spartacus guides and have found them incredibly inaccurate in the past.A vintner I know who live s in Galicia keystone springdale travel trailers Spain is in an arranged marriage with a Lesbian because he feel s his village pressure would hurt his business.I don t see the difference between being married in DC,NY,Boston,Seattle or Iowa and being married in Stockholm.My husband and I are celebrating our 30th year together and were first married in San Francisco in 2004.We have found more acceptance in our business life with out government mandates in the US over Europe.You can legislate equality but can you get the populace to accept us and that s the difference between Europe and the US.
I think you hit the nail on the heard, Peternsancarlos. I think a lot of it has to do with location. Take the United States for example: a foreigner (gay or straight) visiting San Francisco, keystone springdale travel trailers NYC, Seattle, Boston, etc. would have a very different opinion of the United States than a foreigner (gay or straight) visiting Little Rock, Arkansas. Although laws in regards keystone springdale travel trailers to the legal status keystone springdale travel trailers of same-sex couples may vary country-by-country, it seems pretty universal that people are more open-minded when they are used to diversity (usually in major, cosmpolitan cities) than in rural areas so maybe the United States (in certain areas) isn t that bad, afterall.
@petersancarlos, I have lived in Spain and I currently live in the US and I must say my experience does not agree at all with the view you expressed. Spain is VERY gay-friendly and very safe compared to anywhere in the US. Also, Spain had gay maariage long before Northern European countries like Germany, which still does not have it, never mind the US. Spanish society keystone springdale travel trailers is much more open and liberal than that in the US, where we are still being subjected to the spectacle of having battles for basic human rights belonging to the 19th century being fought between what in European terms is a center-right party (the Democrats) and a far-right keystone springdale travel trailers party (the Republicans), keystone springdale travel trailers who by the way cooperate to smother any and all movements on the left in the crib.
OTTOMAN s tortured logic is my fav though. Because Sweden is small and Amurika is BIG you can t compare them. HUH? If you re a big country you are STUPIDER and therefore have to be given a break? HUH? Another proof of the huge success the Republican Right has had destroying American public education. Young people can no longer THINK.
You can tell which writers have actually, open-mindedly keystone springdale travel trailers LIVED in other places, and which have either never traveled, or went briefly and stayed in American hotels or were guided by American biased (or cowtowing) leaders on tours. Poor things. This country is a ridiculous, Puritan, anti-sex, anti-woman, FAILING, homophobic 3rd world train wreck. I should know, I ve watched it deteriorate for 65 years. If you like the USA, you are welcome to it
I just got back from the Middle East, including specifically Jordan, Egypt, and Turkey, and the values for those countries are a farce. Whoever gathered this data has no idea what they re talking about!
These days, Jordan actually has NO laws against consensual gay sex with an adult (I think the age of consent is 16). It s also a pretty liberal country as far as gay rights go, at least for the Middle East. Yes, it s not Belgium or Spain, but it s about where Germany was a couple decades ago; almost no one is out but then the scene is still pretty visible. Have these reviewers BEEN to Amman? Even read once about it?
And where is Turkey in the negative column? Unless they happened to have included the ruling from last week, last I checked, despite cultural ambivalence (read: behavior in many hamams), gay sex is unnatural according to their Supreme Court.
I find it crazy that Sweden is at the top. Sure, the laws are government are all for equal rights but the problem is the gay culture, there is none! The most homogenized
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