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People fill the dance floor at Rodeo Bar & Grill in Broadway at the Beach's Celebrity Circle on Friday, Sept. 6, 2013. The bar is located in Myrtle Beach. Photo by Janet Blackmon Morgan / jblackmon@thesunnews.com
I think the downtown district needs nightlife, said Rose, who owns two bars in Myrtle Beach and wants to open another on Ocean Boulevard in the former Club Exception building at Eighth Avenue North.
A moratorium on nightclubs or bars in the area that could serve more than 150 patrons has been in place since January, keeping Rose -- who also owns Rodeo Bar and Grill at Broadway at the Beach and the Burger Bar on Kings Highway -- from moving forward with his plan to bring a nightclub to Ocean Boulevard.
Some, including Mayor John Rhodes, said he wants to keep large bars and nightclubs off Ocean Boulevard to protect the heart of Myrtle Beach. But some business leaders say those offerings could be a vital mix in the tourist hub.
Representatives from the Downtown Redevelopment Corp. and the Myrtle Beach Planning Commission -- which at the City Council s request has been reviewing the issue since January -- jointly recommended that large nightclubs be allowed downtown, while having those establishments submit a written safety plan and participate in a voluntary violence reduction program before being allowed to operate. Nightclubs currently open in the city would have 90 days to update or create a written safety plan that is approved by police.
Chris Walker, president of the Oceanfront Merchants Association, said while the group will not discuss the city s proposals until later this week, the business owners and potential business owners cheap vacation packages hawaii he s spoken with informally all support the idea of safety plans and increased accountability while allowing cheap vacation packages hawaii nightclubs into the area.
Rhodes said he s concerned that incidents that he said have occurred downtown at nightclubs such as the Karma Ultimate Teen Nightclub and the now closed Club Exception have a negative affect cheap vacation packages hawaii on tourism, the backbone of the area s economy. Downtown is defined as the area from Sixth Avenue South to 16th Avenue North, from the Atlantic Ocean to Oak Street and Broadway Street.
Police said the incident with the juvenile occurred after officers responded about 9:30 p.m. April 6 to a complaint about too many people inside Karma. A security worker from the club had asked officers to go inside because there was a large fight, according to a police report.
The police have a hard time policing the area, he said. The issue has never been Karma. The issue is the excess in the amount of kids on Ocean Boulevard because cheap vacation packages hawaii of spring break. When clubs close, they put X amount of kids out on the street and police have the issue of maintaining it.
Frakes said teens attending the club must abide by the dress code and are searched with a metal detector. He said staff also search the girls purses to make sure that nothing that is prohibited such as pepper spray or pocket knifes makes it into the club.
Victor Shamah, owner of The Bowery, said his major concern is what he said is a lack of police presence unless there s an incident. The Bowery, at 110 Ninth Avenue North, is classified by the city as a nightclub.
cheap vacation packages hawaii Shamah said tourism downtown has increased since the initial decline seen after the Myrtle Beach Pavilion Amusement Park closed in 2006 and the boardwalk cheap vacation packages hawaii opened in 2010, but the police force hasn t increased cheap vacation packages hawaii proportionally.
Capt. David Knipes with Myrtle Beach Police said the city has not expanded the number of officers on the force in the past five years, with 181 certified officers serving the city. He said there are officers assigned to waterfront shifts that are on bicycles, T3 patrollers, on foot and in golf carts that patrol from Sixth Avenue South to 21st Avenue North and from the ocean to Kings Highway. Those officers are the ones to respond cheap vacation packages hawaii to calls downtown.
During the July joint meeting of the Planning Commission and the Downtown Redevelopment Corp., business owners and other stakeholders told officials from the two groups that the city should focus on working hard to police and enforce incidents not only downtown, but throughout the city, and not focus on limiting the types of establishments allowed on Ocean Boulevard.
We don t need to have the problems that we ve had with some of these nightclubs [downtown], Rhodes said during the council workshop. I m not interested cheap vacation packages hawaii in 10 percent of the business running away 90 percent of the business.
Rhodes acknowledged the amount of crime reported in other areas of town with nightclubs, such as Broadway at the Beach, but said he didn t believe the city needed to regulate the Burroughs and Chapin Co. Inc.-owned property.
Broadway has their own security that is there to take care of the problems they have, Rhodes said. If there s a problem they can t handle, they call the police cheap vacation packages hawaii in. On the Boulevard they just have regular policemen.
Knipes said it would be difficult to compare crime reported downtown to crime reported at Broadway s Celebrity Square, which has about 10 nightclubs and drinking places, versus any one club downtown.
Even if you put Club Karma and Club Heat together, you re going to see more calls for service at Celebrity Square, he said, saying that some of the types of calls seen on the Boulevard are different than those at Broadway. It s a different environment.
Planning Commission and Downtown cheap vacation packages hawaii Redevelopment officials recommended City Council adopt specific definitions for establishments cheap vacation packages hawaii in the city such as nightclubs, dinner clubs, drinking places and other businesses.
The proposed ordinance also would require the nightclubs within a nightclub district defined in the proposed working ordinance as two or more drinking places sharing access to a common area, or operating on the same lot with the same landlord have a common security plan for incidents that occur in the common area.
Rose said he thought implementing safety plans and having staff participate in a violence reduction program would only improve cheap vacation packages hawaii things at nightclubs and bars and said he saw value in having cheap vacation packages hawaii a coordinated response when issues arose.
Redevelopment corporation member Debby Brooks said in July that keeping nightclubs out of downtown would stifle the area s growth. The Downtown Redevelopment Corp. was created to facilitate the revitalization of downtown Myrtle Beach, according to the group s website.
Shamah, the owner of The Bowery, said tourist areas should provide a variety of things for people to do downtown. He said he had plans to expand The Bowery before the Pavilion closed cheap vacation packages hawaii in 2006, but waited to see the economy turn around.
There are folks who see the crowd and assume that if you have a large number cheap vacation packages hawaii of 17- to 21-year-olds out at night, they re up to no good, Walker said. Most of the times it s just young guys looking to date young girls. It s the same thing they did in the 50s, except they don t have on white shirts with the sleeves rolled up and peg-leg jeans. They have on baggy jeans and [tank tops]. It s the same, but different.