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My husband and I would like to babymoon/1st anniversary around Western Europe in June. We were thinking of leaving Hawaii on the 1st and leaving Europe around the 18th. We would like to fly roundtrip out of London (LHR).
The problem is, I'm not really sure of the best way to get to and from these cities. In Japan, you get the railpass and you're done for the entire country, but I've been reading conflicting information online about rail vs discount airlines safety records international airlines when it comes to Europe.
Given the limited time you have, I would do an open jaw ticket arriving in London and departing from Rome--flying back to London will probably mean losing a full day plus adding the expenses of going to and from the airports and an overnight in London.
Think of Europe like the USA. I doubt if you would plan a trip to NYC, Chicago, and Dallas, So, plan your trip geographically in Europe as well. Italy itself makes a nice trip for that time. Or, London, Paris, and Amsterdam could easily fill 16 days. You get the idea.
When flying from Hawaii, it is actually cheaper for us to fly in and out of London rather than flying from LIH to LHR then from Rome back to LIH. In addition, because we're from Hawaii, we actually would travel all over as the previous poster speculated because we only get to travel every few years and have to make the most of it when we do. We did both islands of New Zealand in two weeks last year by canpervanning... That's just the way we travel.
I don't understand why when flying from Hawaii it's cheaper to do a round-trip ticket than an open-jaw (multi-city). But I'm not much familiar with Hawaii, so perhaps safety records international airlines there's a reason. Did you actually look for multi-city safety records international airlines flight options? It's totally different from two one-way tickets.
Aloha and congratulations on planning a trip. We have enjoyed many, many vacations in Hawaii, so I want to help if I can. Since it is such a long trip, you do need to break it up a lot. Are you going Lihue/Seattle/London? Or maybe through LA? As mentioned above, just be sure the quotes you are getting for flights include safety records international airlines the Heathrow extra charges...and flying out of Paris might be cheaper/easier than Rome, because I know Seattle has direct safety records international airlines to Paris options but not direct to Rome options, last I checked. You might do London/Rome/Paris in that order.
The other idea is to do London, Paris and Provence (Luberon), or London, Rome and Tuscany (Chianti), which would give you more of a diverse experience, so you don't just get cities (like doing Honolulu safety records international airlines and Kauai for the contrast).
While it is cheaper to do round trip to LHR for this segment alone, you will have to add back tracking costs. It would not be easy to back track from Rome to London for less than $73 with checked luggage. You would also need to consume safety records international airlines an overnight in London before flying home if you back track.
Usually a very VERY false economy. Sure the base fare might be less in/out of London . . . But then you have to factor safety records international airlines in several hundred $$$ to fly back to London plus losing a whole day of you already VERY limited time. But open jaw/multi city is seldom much more than a straight round trip.
DebitNM: British Air's prices from North America to or through the UK are competitive with other airlines. A little higher here, a little lower there; that's business. They all pay airport fees, buy fuel, and calculate the final price. The bottom line is all the customer needs know.
Are you referring to the extra charges BA is notorious for inflicting on frequent-flyer tickets (with its partner American getting in on that action)? The spin-doctoring by its loyalty program is not the issue for the original poster here, nor for many other questions about standard pay-for-purchase safety records international airlines tickets. Beyond the final purchase price, no paying customer has to cough up extra to fly through Heathrow.
If you're wanting to see the mountains, you could bypass safety records international airlines Rome and fly from London Gatwick into Venice cheap on EasyJet.com . Do your tourist thing there and then rent a car. Head north into the Italian Dolomites--absolutely incredible mountain scenery safety records international airlines 2 hrs. north. You might also have time to take in Florence tourist sights.
Whatever flight routing you choose, I recommend you keep the outbound connections to a minimum because every time you connect somewhere you risk being delayed and/or missing a flight. On the other hand, delays safety records international airlines on the return trip don't reduce safety records international airlines your vacation time.
And don;t understand the RT London thing. If you are looking at multidestination tickets (into London and out of Rome or Amsterdam or whatever) you will find it doesn;t cost any more - will probably cost less than returning to London).
I really have to emphasize once again, that we are fairly determined on traveling to at least three places in Europe, regardless safety records international airlines of the travel time. Any more than two days in one locale and it's time for us to get moving again. We just enjoy fast-paced travel much more... I think it has something to do with living safety records international airlines in constant paradise.
IMO this REALLY doesn't work for places like London/Paris/Rome. London safety records international airlines for instance - you'll have two jet lagged days . . . which three major sites (out of dozens) will you visit? Because that is really all the time you'll have. Same w/ Paris - by the time you get there you'll be over most of the jet lag so you might fit in four of the major sites.
If I was flying all the way from HI I'd darn well want time to actually enjoy the places at least a teensy bit. And have time for a sidewalk cafe, or a river boat cruise, safety records international airlines or just walking around and absorbing and having a casual glass of wine or a beer in a pub.
If I read the first post correctly, a babymoon means you are adding a pregnancy to this race around Europe, after a very long flight from Hawaii. Not knowing where you are in the pregnancy, I would also advise spending more than 2 days in each city, as in relax, stroll, enjoy the people and the scenery. 4 destinations means a lot of either train stations or airports, and the budget airlines are often removed from the city proper.
I think the OP is clear they like a good run of a holiday and we should safety records international airlines try and help them. I assume they understand that first day is a bit lost in the hase of jet lag and that moving costs them 1/2 a day and some cash.
Between Paris, Rome, Barcelona and back to London the best is plane, but you need to know two things, not all airports are the same nor are all airlines. Generally Ryanair is to be avoided (poor customer service to say the least) and you want the airport that has good public transport to the city of your choice. For instance, London airport could be one of 5, Rome 3, Paris 2 (was 3 in 2013) as the cheaper airlines take the gullible to some airport in the next country . Use skyscanner to get a feel for it, words like "Easyjet" should make you feel more comfortable.
The problem is, I'm not really sure of the best way to get to and from these cities. In Japan, you get the railpass and you're done for the entire country, but I've been reading conflicting information online about rail vs discount safety records international airlines airlines when it comes to Europe.
railpasses safety records international airlines are not the panacea they once were for many folks - not just because of discount airlines but also discounted inter-city train fares that for folks taking a relatively few train trips in a relatively safety records international airlines few countries that course could be the cheapest way.
European trains, at least on the Continent, now blast between most key cities at speeds of up to nearly 200 mph and there are overnight trains between just about any two cities far enough safety records international airlines removed - save time even over flying and the cost of a night in a hotel.
The mnatra I find more and more on Fodor;s is that railpasses are NEVER a good idea anymore and IMO and IME of training around Europe with passes for decades no could be further from the truth - anyone taking several longish train rides in several countries or anyone taking lots of trains in one country (there are one-country railpasses) may well find a pass a boon.
And folks wanting flexibility to hop any train anytime as a Eurailpass still allows in most of the countries in Europe can also be key - the discounted tickets that are often hyped as a panacea for everyone are train-specific often non-changeable nor trefundable and as they are sold in limited numbers must be booked in stone weeks or months before to guarantee getting.
And if over 25 a Eurailpass is usually first-class only and IME of decades of traveling with a first-class pass for the trip of a lifetime I urge you to consider making your first train trip as relaxed as possible - first class has bigger seats, less seats per same size train car as in 2nd class (which is perfectly safety records international airlines adequate - not a cattle car usually just that first class is much more adequate and why zillions of Europeans pay more to go first class - lots easier to stow luggage - I often put in on an empty seat near me, etc.
so there is my suggestion - to investigate railpasses and just do not pay much attention to folks who say railpasses safety records international airlines are never a good thing - my experience tells me that is a foolish statement - do your research and come to your own conclusion.
From Rome to Barcelona there are discount flights on Vueling. And from Barcelona safety records international airlines to Paris there is an overnight train with sleeper cars if you're interested in trying that. Then Paris to London,either Eurostar safety records international airlines train or cheap flights safety records international airlines on Easyjet.... safety records international airlines ending your vacation in London.
whichairline.com is the place to check on which airlines fly cheaply between your cities. With all you're hopping around, hopefully you'll be traveling light...but remember that the low fare airlines don't include much baggage safety records international airlines in the quoted price.
Anyway, that's the way I would do it...... Rome 5 nights, Barcelona 3 nights, Paris 5 nights and London 5 ni
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